I think if you wanna make a fair assessment of an artist, you should do it with albums, and not with mixtape shit.

If you put The Carter & The Carter II up against ANY of the last 2 albums from alot of artists in the game right now.... weezy got em.

Judging someone off some mixtape shit isnt a fair meeasuring stick on how good of an ARTIST they are.

How many "mixtape phenoms" are out there who cant make a listenable album??? hundreds.

at the end of the day, in 50 years when they are saying whos the greatest in hip hop.. .they wont be using the "Gangsta Grillz" mixtape series to come to their conclusion....
 

Disagree.

Most cats come way more correct on their mixtapes (ie. Fab, Budden) and give true fans what they want, and what they want is not that radio shit.

GG's series will hang around, just like Clue's classics. Think about it, who blew up off GG? Well, TI gained major exposure and shall we mention Jeezy?

The Carter was okay to me. It had a few tracks that were worthy of multiple listens.

The Carter 2 is a coaster around the crib.

I can think of several albums out of the South alone that ish on the work Weezy's put out recently, off top and randomly - Webbie & Killer Mike, but just didn't have the same name and push behind them. There's plenty more.

Just my opinion.
 

I'll agree with you on Killer mike.. dude is a beast.

I guess this all depends on your view of mixtapes. To me, they are cool, but its not "official". They're nothing more than a promotional tool, something to keep your fans satisfied between albums...

an album is your legacy.


but yeah. That shit with weezy kissing baby in the mouth is disgusting. Im with you on that.
 

Yeah...I knew I wasn't gonna win any new fans w/this post but I had to be honest.

I was dissapointed b/c I'd heard so much about the tape and was intially reluctant to hear it..."best GG of the series", "Wayne brings the heat"...I caved and gave it a listen, b/c like I said, dude was really really impressing me w/his recent stuff.

Albums are indeed your legacy but mixtapes today are like early, "lost" and studio outtake recordings of groups of yesterday.

Not everybody has access to them, etc etc so as the days go past, they're added to the collective body of work for an artist.
 

Where is the video of this kiss? I'm just curious... is it an urban legend (in the truest sense) like Ciara revealing that she used to be a man on Oprah? Or Tommy Hilfiger saying that he didn't want blacks buying his clothes on Oprah (which by the way, never happened). I can vaguely recall watching 106 & Park and seeing Baby kiss Wayne on the cheek... if it was 106 & Park that this kiss happened... I don't know about that "on the mouth," rumor... and this is coming from someone who has had the feeling long before this alleged kiss that Baby is gay. Youtube... here I'z come. Cuz you know if it ain't on Youtube... it didn't happen... lol
 

Nope... not on Youtube... this rumor has been going around for years, but if there is no proof (and come on... you mean to tell me NO ONE has put it up on the i-net in all of this time? Somebody's got it out there)... I am comfortable enough in my sexuality as a man to watch it once just so I know this isn't another rumor about black folks that other black folks spread (and believe). Because that Ciara rumor is straight Looney Toons... no one with any amount of common sense would believe that... and yet, we as black people still do (just type it into Yahoo Answers to see what I mean).
 

Well when you aint got the same guy "helping" you out with your lyrics, the fuck you expect? That's right, I believe it! And I won't be surprised if Cam's a "helper" too with that god awful


"I got this bitch
Her name's Aiesha
She ride that dick and make a mean cheese pizza
One time it was so good
I told her order one mo'
She said 'It's not Domino's
It's Digiorno's..."

What the blood.... clot?! Wayne is trash. Don't let the eyelid tats fool you.
 

thank y'all for the leakage.....shhh don't tell ?uesto....
 

really i think walk it off was just supposed to be fun and light. that digorno's shit is funny. i liked that song. you really can't read to much into it. the chorus is fun and so are the different things he says about different girls. spitter, sportscenter, gettin some head remix, most of it is just really clever and good. and i really don't think lil wayne would kiss another guy on the mouth unless he was gay, and i don't think he's gay because it doesn't seem at all like he is. if you wanna think someone is gay, start with cam'ron.
 

...son kissed Baby in the mouth.?
got any proof of this, gotty? cos' that's just hard to believe. the thought of weezy kickin' trina to the curb for birdman sounds absurd.
 

Makes you wonder about the people who producing this kinda shit and the peeps buying ...

"Weezy weezy
sounds kinda creepy, sleezy
saw you standing by the bay
kissin another boy
so that makes you gay"

LMAO
 

Gillie da Kid speaks on beef w/ Weezy...

He drops a reference to the infamous kissing rumor into the bars he "previews." This shit is more funny to me than anything else. It's just...silly, for lack of a better term.
 

"Albums are indeed your legacy but mixtapes today are like early, "lost" and studio outtake recordings of groups of yesterday..."
I disagree. Mixtapes are more of a fix, and that's why artists can go ahead and put out this silly shit with on the spot choruses and cocky, silly rhymes. Not saying I support it, but the two are very different IMH.

Bottom line, did you hear his lyrical performance on the very last track of that disc...over the Pac instrumental? Endgame.

For the record, Anthony Kiedis and Dave Navarro kissed in the mouth and Kiedis touched on Madonna, Demi Moore while Navarro went on to wife Electra + all the road smuts...I mean, you guys can't honestly believe that ANY of the mentioned names are REALLY gay. I agree it's hard to justify, but step in their shoes...different freaks every night, easily.

We need more Roots discussion..."Game Theory" the track is ultra thoro. It's those drums, sir...BT's verses on that track alone certify him top 10...the type of shhh legends are made of.

Aww, clean it up, Johnny!!
 

^I don't like to rush to review anything but you should know I'm feeling GT already.
 

Papoose - The 1.5 Million Dollar Man (2006)

http://rapidshare.de/files/25785003/Papoose-The_1.5_Million_Dollar_Man-2006.rar

G-Unit Radio#21: DJ Whoo Kid & 50 Cent - Hate It Or Love It

http://rapidshare.de/files/24870234/gur21_supa.rar

DJ Smallz - Southern Smoke 27 [Hosted by Ludacris & Field Mob]

http://rapidshare.de/files/25333057/ss27_www.supa-warez.blogspot.com_.rar
 

I cant get the Joe Buddens open thru upfile.com. Come to think of it, havent been able to get any files to pop over upfile.
 

i'm amped to hear GT cause i thought, and i don't get a lot of agreement on this, that Tipping Point was their best yet, TFA, close behind, but TP was as good as they've gotten. definitely will cop it when it comes out.

also got dedication 2 cause i heard alot about it. he must just have a street team that goes out and talks about it cause i was let down. the katrina song, which was suppose to be a headshot at bush barely registered, papoose's mother nature and even juvenile's track was better.

maybe i'm just not a fan of that retard flow that seems to be so hot right now, Mase made it popular, that style that makes you seem like you just stepped off the short bus. 50, Cam and Wheezy all riding together to special ed.
 

See,i just cant keep reading after you say WEBBIE is better than Lil Wayne...that nigga is straight garbage...Killer Mike is a stronger argument,but he's still yet to make anything successful...Oh,and to highlight a track like "Walk It Off",a track where you can clearly see Wayne was just fuckin around doin' some 'other' shit if you will,is not fair when he drops joints like "Receipt" and "Shooter","Get Over"...I agree that his flow can be lazy at times,but how many other rappers get like that when theyre sitting comfortable...I honestly dont believe you gave Tha Carter 2 a good,thorough listening...cuz thats probably the best album to come out since the day of its released,with maybe T.I. and Ghostface coming close...But,everybody has different brains,different ears,different tastes....but I just hate the comparison of Webbie who hasnt proved shit in rap,much less with a verse...to Lil Wayne....either way,still faithful to the site...
 

how the hell fo u DL with upfile?
 

oh yeah ps,that new roots is a breath of fresh fuckin air....
 

The only new commercial shit I like is Wayne. I'm usually a strick backpack type but I like wayne sound for some reason even when he rappin about pizza.
 

if your a fan of stream of conciousness non sequitors and generally ABSTRACTED lyrcisim then right now Weezy is doin things BIG. if i want detailed narrative ill go elsewhere [let's say Ghostface for right now]. in any event different dudes do different things. old weezy, old cam ic ant fucks with. beats are usually soft and really i dont care about coke tales that much. but when you turn down the coke detail and turn up the absurdity and artistry youve got me interested. other dudes want coke details, too each his own. there is no definitive measuring stick of any artform. basquiat and michaelangelo were both great artists.
 

upfile...it's best viewed in IE from my exp. It takes a sec to get the hang of it.
 

Cause here I come, here I come, here I come !!

You boys get ready..

Who is that on the second verse? Kamal??? No way

Yeah, I know you're feeling that GT, tho...even the abbrev. is hard.

Black's the realest, you can't touch him // And not for nothin', if you doubt hip hop, then you gots to love it...

Don't rush that, you right.
 

You know you gemini ass ain't tryna win fans.

You just like to add spice to the sauce.
Thats cool too.

But, as per our conversation, your boy Whizzel is like the new old mobb deep. I heard this jawn on a DJ Clue Mix and was like, WHO dat. Ahhh. The Whizzle Charisma shines through!

Full disclosure I have been reading about dudes talking 'bout whizzle, but ain't ever heard some ish that rocked till last Friday. Go figgure.

Perhaps the issue G, is that Wheezy ain't consistent with is jawn. And THAT is what you have a problem with.
 

Can't wait to listen to Game Theory! haha

But I do agree with Gotty about Wayne. I find his lyrics very "special". I wasn't around for the Cash Money days, so I am not sure what you are speaking of, but the carter 2 was not as good as it is made out to be. I could barely even get past track 3 on Dedication 2. But everyone has their own opinions on music, which is why it is such a good discussion. As for CDs better than Wayne's Carter II since release:
Fishscale
King
Food and Liquor
Light Poles and Pinetrees
Nature Sounds-Natural Selection
The Big Bang
and probably some others if I digged
 

The Tipping Point was pretty bad even though it had some individual moments

The Roots best albums are Do You Want More!?!?! and Illadelph Halflife. After that they got lost in the "neo soul" trend and have been trying to find their way ever since.

Game Theory is a very good comeback. I like it better than anything theyve done since Illadelph Halflife. If you download Game Theory you might as well as add "Please Dont Go" which isnt on it for some reason.
 

GT is the best Roots effort since TFA. Shit is sick.

gotty you know i dig Weezy, i just dig the word play and his swagger. it ain't always about over thinking, that's what i dig. but when i want to over think his shit, it is there too. just dont' forget us Weezy fans when posting shit. =) but this was a great post, and keep up the incredible work.
 

what happened to the shining?

it says download limit exceeded
 

DYWM!?!? is the best Roots joint. Period. Bar none.
 

you are the fucking king!
 

GREAT STUFF WITH THE GAME THEORY!!! Im gonna get it as sooon as it hits aussie shores!! propsss
 

Weezy been bullshittin lately outside of THe Carter 1. He aint did nothing to really catch my interest. I used to be a big Weezy fan too. The dude is overrated.
 

The Roots link and the Pharrell link is down. Are there any new ones?